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I'm going over my numbers for printing for Arcanacon, and the numbers are disturbing. The question is, how many copies should I print.

Unions and Intersections is scheduled to run twice, so I print three copies of it. That way I have a spare of everything in case anyone loses a character sheet, and if no one loses anything I have a spare copy for later. The character sheets come in at 111 pages total, so there's 333 printed sheets there.

How many copies of Back in the Biz... should I do though? Theoretically I could be running the game in every session that I'm not running Unions and Intersections, so that's 11 sessions. Add one spare (because I'm paranoid) and that's 12 copies. Total for those is 42 pages, so that's 504 pages on it's own.

Should I print that many, or should I assume that I won't get that many and print less. Not sure.

At the moment I have 24 players spread over 10 sessions. If they stay as they are, two of those sessions will run (one with 5 players, one with 6 players), but I assume that they will rearrange themselves at rego so more will end up running.

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delwyn
Jan. 21st, 2008 01:41 am (UTC)
My table-top printing rule of thumb is one copy of the game (including character sheets and handouts) per GM, plus a spare, then 1 set of character sheets + handouts for each time it's expected to run (plus a spare set)
pastryproducts
Jan. 21st, 2008 02:11 am (UTC)
Me too...are you wearing my underwear as well?
delwyn
Jan. 21st, 2008 02:19 am (UTC)
Well that explains it - I didn't recall owning anything lacy
pastryproducts
Jan. 21st, 2008 02:54 am (UTC)
No, no. That's OUR underwear, remember? It has four leg holes in it and all!
pastryproducts
Jan. 21st, 2008 02:15 am (UTC)
In the first two tabletops that I ran I printed three copies of the module, just in case. Never have I bothered to do so again. In our modern age of laptops as well, it makes multiple printings obsolete also.

Print a copy for yourself, and another copy as a back-up if you feel paranoid. Add one for each additional GM.

As for freeforms, that's monstrous. I'm looking at over 160 pages of printouts for a 1 session game, it's insane!

Though I'm also struggling enough with my largest set of character sheets for a tabletop that I have run to date, hitting 30 pages of printouts easily for a group of 4 players. Usually I try to limit it to about 3 pages max, but this year just seems to be the year for clear-felling nearby forests.
teknohippi
Jan. 21st, 2008 03:05 am (UTC)
double siding and recycling is your friend
Maybe we can ask the orgs to have recycling bins in place for the left over character sheets

reducing waste is good
travisjhall
Jan. 21st, 2008 03:17 am (UTC)

Nobody's recycling my character sheets. They go into the collection.

(That's characters I play, not characters others play in my games. Players in my games can do whatever they like with their character sheets.)

teknohippi
Jan. 21st, 2008 03:47 am (UTC)
I keep a lot of mine too but I certainly know that many people do not and the option would be good
travisjhall
Jan. 21st, 2008 04:04 am (UTC)

Yes, if people are going to throw away their character sheet (oh, the inhumanity!) it is better that they be recycled.

halloranelder
Jan. 21st, 2008 03:37 am (UTC)
I agree with Travis.

I don't throw out any of my character sheets from a con until well after the convention, and then only usually many years later when I can't remember the game any more.

It doesn't happen all that often. I do however throw them into the recycling bin at home when I do throw them out.
pastryproducts
Jan. 21st, 2008 03:44 am (UTC)
Good call, I throw out so much crap at the end of a Con. Recycling bins for the win!
paradigmshifty
Jan. 21st, 2008 11:09 am (UTC)
That's a damn good idea and I wonder why it hasn't been done before. With the amount of glass and tins around as well...
halloranelder
Jan. 22nd, 2008 04:36 am (UTC)
Hmm...

I'm not actually a big fan of double sided printing for Freeforms. I find them harder to flick through when searching for information quickly (which you tend to have to do in a freeform).

A Tabletop you're less likely to need to search for information so quickly, so I'm getting the tabletop sheets printed double sided, but leaving the freeform sheets as single sided.

Recycling however is a really good idea.

I wonder if it would be possible to have a recycling bin (box, whatever) in the freeform room for people to dump unwanted character sheet right after the game? I think I might do that for my two sessions.
aeduna
Jan. 21st, 2008 03:03 am (UTC)
er, 42 pages?? :) You really only need a copy of the characters and handouts for each session.

Anyone who wants to organise paper recycling at the con would be excellent. Orgs looked into it years ago and Visy wanted $250 a bin for the weekend.
teknohippi
Jan. 21st, 2008 03:16 am (UTC)
If it was possible to get some bins I may be able to sort something out through work....
aeduna
Jan. 21st, 2008 03:50 am (UTC)
We tried that - and got tired of pulling rubbish out of them.

I'm sure if you were happy to volunteer, the orgs would appreciate it :)
paradigmshifty
Jan. 21st, 2008 11:11 am (UTC)
Ahhh, that answered my question above.
teknohippi
Jan. 21st, 2008 03:17 am (UTC)
by bins I mean containers to put paper in
halloranelder
Jan. 21st, 2008 03:34 am (UTC)
42 pages is the characters and handouts...

They were shorter, but my playtesters thought more information was required. So, not my fault. :)
aeduna
Jan. 21st, 2008 03:51 am (UTC)
Good god.
We've got 3 sessions of handouts and 12 characters and don't come near that. And we're running Cthulhu :)
pastryproducts
Jan. 21st, 2008 04:40 am (UTC)
Just did my Cthulhu print outs, and though I got some double siding in, but layout is a bitch for it though.

If there was no doubling, I'd be looking at about 25 pages for 4 characters. Over 7 sessions it's about 175 pages!!! Considering the game is just over 30 pages long, we'll call it an even 200 pages for the game!

With new calculations since I have to start printing the freeform soon, the 1-session game is hitting over 200 pages as well.

I'll be lugging effectively 400+ pages of print (hopefully with double siding I'll come in under 250 actual pages), plus a conflict resolution system heavy enough to sink a battleship, into the Con on Friday.

I'm really up for the recylcing thing after writing this down. I'm not even considering all the printouts I've had to redo as well in these numbers either.
teknohippi
Jan. 21st, 2008 05:34 am (UTC)
I will have a chat to Laura about getting some boxes and a bit of advertising that they are for recycling.
I can possibly deal with the disposal at work becasue we have a paper collection at work that i can utilise
aeduna
Jan. 21st, 2008 05:51 am (UTC)
Maybe behind/near the rego desk so it doesn't collect random bits of garbage. Also, cos the rego desk generates lots of scrap paper too
paradigmshifty
Jan. 21st, 2008 11:12 am (UTC)
You hate me, don't you? :-)
aeduna
Jan. 21st, 2008 11:13 am (UTC)
Moi? :) Won't need it during the Friday/Saturday rush I suspect, more toward the end of the con, so there should be more room.
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