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A change is as good as a holiday...

I'm going to change my name.

I have never liked my name, for as long as I can remember. My real name is Andrew John Jones, and it's never really been mine.

Everywhere I go, there's always at least one other Andrew and at least one other Jones. Sometimes there's even another Andrew Jones to deal with. I don't even have a reasonable middle name to fall back on. So, for 25 odd years (I don't count the first 5 or 6 years) I've been wandering around with a name I haven't been able to say is mine and I hate it.

I did a little bit of investigation and it's not actually that hard to officially change name. There's a form to fill out, proof of ID to provide, and a fee. $86 for the actual name change, plus an additional $25 or so if you want a new birth certificate. That's it. The "hardest" part is then going to be propagating the change of name to all the other places that are going to want to know about it.

Two things currently holding me back.

Firstly will be trying to explain it to my parents. I'm not sure how they are going to take it, and I'm not sure how I'm going to explain to them why I feel it's necessary. I love my parents dearly, but sometimes they can be so set in their ways.

The second (and larger) problem is I'm not decided on what to change my name to. Two options come to mind. First it to keep the surname (maybe appease the parentals a bit) and just have a new first name, in which case I would probably go for Random Jones. Second option would be to start completely fresh, in which case I would probably go for a name I sort have been using for many years and use Halloran Elder. Of course there's also the middle names to consider. Two options again there. Firstly is have Andrew John as my middle names, keeping the link to who I was, or don't have "middle names" and just have the middle initials of A. J. with no actual names. I have a feeling that no matter what I change to I'm going to be AJ to a lot of people for a long while.

Of course, I could just drop the middle names entirely, and just have a first and last name. I'm not sure.

Anyone have an opinion?

Edit: One name I thought of was "Random J Person".



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Nov. 2nd, 2005 03:32 am (UTC)
Random is an awesome name... :)
Nov. 2nd, 2005 04:11 am (UTC)
The thought has come to mind of changing my name to Random J Person. :)
Nov. 2nd, 2005 03:39 am (UTC)
Avoid Halloran unless you're prepared for a lot of HAL jokes and other Space Odyssey 2001 references (and knowing who you associate with, you're not going to be able to avoid them). Have you considered changing your name to "AJ" as the full first name?
Nov. 2nd, 2005 03:48 am (UTC)
And all the various "hell" jokes and puns too...
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Nov. 2nd, 2005 04:06 am (UTC)
Ajay Jones?
Nov. 2nd, 2005 04:10 am (UTC)
As I just said above:

As for AJ, it's not actually one of my favourites. It's always seemed to me to be a cop out for a nick name. "Hmm, boring name... lets see, you need a nick name... what should it be?... I know, we'll have it as your initals!"
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Nov. 2nd, 2005 04:18 am (UTC)
"Random Jones" is absolutely bloody awesome. Hell, i might have to start calling oyu random anyway. halloran aint bad either, but "random Jones is very very you.
Nov. 2nd, 2005 04:43 am (UTC)
Thank you, I think...

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Nov. 2nd, 2005 04:26 am (UTC)
This is a most interesting question, however, I have to ask -

'What are you known as now?'
Nov. 2nd, 2005 04:38 am (UTC)
I'm Aj (pronounced as the two individual letters Aye Jay) to most of my friends, but Andrew to anyone I have a business relationship with. This includes where I work, plus the places I frequent like my personal trainer and the chiropractor.

To my parents I'm either Aj or Andrew, depending on the circumstances. Aj most of the time, but Andrew when I'm introduced to others.

And now for a very interesting question in return: Do I know you? You look to be part of the "Brisbane crowd" so it's entirely possibly that I know you and can't remember you. No problem if I don't, I just like to know where people connect in to things.
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Nov. 2nd, 2005 04:34 am (UTC)
"Random J Person" is likely to cause all sorts of trouble when dealing with any kind of officaldom.

"Halloran Elder" sounds suitably uncommon and dignified to me.

Middle names are so last century, I wouldn't bother with one. :)
Nov. 2nd, 2005 04:43 am (UTC)
Random J Person is one of those really surreal names that I love but would never, ever use.

Both Random Jones and Halloran Elder have attractions, I'm just not sure what.

One alternative would be Halloran Random Elder. Maybe.
(no subject) - rantinan - Nov. 2nd, 2005 04:54 am (UTC) - Expand
Nov. 2nd, 2005 05:21 am (UTC)
From someone who's been there, I would recommend not changing your first name if you can.

I'll expand on why a bit later - busy, busy at the moment.
Nov. 3rd, 2005 05:13 am (UTC)
I'm curious as to why you advise against it, also being someone who has been there and would avocate it.
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Nov. 2nd, 2005 06:28 am (UTC)
You realise if you change your name to Halloran Elder I will always greet you with "Hallo, Ran," from here on out.

Indiana Jones? Or another random American State name?

And if you need a new middle name, use "Danger".
Nov. 2nd, 2005 06:55 am (UTC)
And then I would be forced to reply "Hallo, Bran." Think you could live with that? :)

Indian Jones? Tacky! No thank you.

As for Danger as my middle name, tempting...
Nov. 2nd, 2005 06:34 am (UTC)
If you have time to make this your priority...I think your life at the moment is farily fantastic :)
I like AJ, it's been my nick name since I was very small...better than "Mandy" or in your case "Andy".
As for others having your name, I thought I had solved that problem for Willow. I was devistated last week to learn that there will be another 3 year old with her name starting at daycare next week.

So what I guess I'm saying is you can't win, someone else will always have your name. and shouldn't be too concerned about it because there are a lot of more important things and you are so much more than your name :)
Nov. 2nd, 2005 06:53 am (UTC)
The thing is, I don't mind someone else sharing my name.

What annoys me is that everywhere I go people are sharing my name, that I can't escape it. It's the sheer numbers that I hate.

However, names are a lot more important that you think. In a lot of cases names help define a large part of the self-image. To any business you deal with, what are you? You are your name. It's not until they get to know you on a more personal level (if they do at all) that you become more than just a name.

The number of times that I have been dealing with a business and given them my name and have been asked for further details because they have more than one Andrew Jones on their books is disheartening. How do you think a little kid feels when they aren't "this person" but merely one of many of them?

Changing my name is something I have considered since I was old enough to realise that it was so ordinary. That's 25 years of consideration. To you it might seem like a small thing, but to me it isn't. To me it's a major thing.

In my opinion a persons full name should be different enough for the person to feel it's there own, but not different enough to cause trouble during childhood. Strange names, weird spellings and the like simply put too much pressure on a child. As an adult, however, anything goes as long as the name is something they can call their own.

In my mind Willow is a perfect name for a child. It's unique enough for her to call it her own, but still common enough for there to be other Willow's out there so she's not alone. How many people out there do you think share both her first name and last name? Not many.

How many share mine? Lots. That's the problem.

I'm rambling a bit here, but I hope you get what I'm trying to say.
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Nov. 2nd, 2005 09:27 am (UTC)
In my humble opinion, Hal's not so good as a legal, but Rand's great.

And if you spell it "Randem" its an anagram with one letter upsidedown, heheheheheheheheheeee!

I'm calling you that from now on anyway!

If you just changed your last name to "Jenos", maybe your parentals won't notice.

Nov. 3rd, 2005 01:55 am (UTC)
I could change to Werdna Senoj. :)
Nov. 2nd, 2005 09:35 am (UTC)
Oh...OH... Become John Jones (the Martian Manhunter (J'onn Jonnz) :D
Nov. 3rd, 2005 01:56 am (UTC)
John Jones is my fathers name, which is where I got my middle name from, so no thank! Plus that would probably make it worse. There are more John's in the world than there are Andrews.
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Nov. 2nd, 2005 09:53 am (UTC)
I had a discussion with friends a while ago over what their children's name's will be. All of us agreed that it would be morally hurtful to the child to name it something obscure, but that it could have any nickname in the world.
I guess that's how I got "Spook". But thats what I get for having the same name (however not named after)as a ghost town. :)

Good luck with however way you decide to go, but remember : You have to live with it 24/7

Ohhh, why not name yourself after a sound?! aaaauuuuaaaoiiiiiiiii..... *lol* j/k!!
Nov. 3rd, 2005 01:57 am (UTC)
Hi, my name's Whack! Thud!, and how are you?

Nov. 2nd, 2005 10:30 am (UTC)
Name change
Just as long as you don't change it to Wayne Kerr ...

.. and just be careful about what you choose. You could end up like me and have initials JRC ("jerk"). Although my middle name is my (dearly departed) father's first name, and I'm not about to drop that.

You could always be A. John Jones (to distinguish you from The John Jones.)
Nov. 3rd, 2005 02:00 am (UTC)
Re: Name change
I know a Wayne Carr, and a Dwayne Pipe. I also know of an Andrew Ness and his brother Peter (A Ness and P Ness). Plus there's Vanessa Dwight (VD) and Barbara Ursulla Majors (BUM).

So, I am well aware of those problems and am not going to fall into that trap.
Nov. 2nd, 2005 10:30 am (UTC)
Given that the other people I know / know of, who shared my name, were the opposite gender & are now deceased [one in 1917, the other in 1986], I feel unique. But you know that anyway. If you want to be not-AJ, then I will call you whatever you choose, but know that you will always be my [wierd / strange / peculiar / funny / loony / tea-providing] friend.
It's a big decision, but one you have mentioned on & off for as long as I've known you. You will find a name that fits.
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Nov. 2nd, 2005 10:49 am (UTC)
On initial inspection, I really didn't like Halloran Eldar - it just seemed a little too much like those strange people in America who rename themselves Batman or Xena.
Then I thought about it, and realised that in daily life, it would probably work surprisingly well.
My vote still goes in for Random Danger Jones, simply because it is the most awesome name I have ever heard in my life.
Also, you'll have a ready supply of terrible, terrible jokes about Random Encounters, and even worse ones about being faced with Danger.
Could you really pass up that kind of opportunity? I don't think so.
Nov. 3rd, 2005 02:08 am (UTC)
My current leaning to towards Random Jones.

I'm not sure about a middle name though. Do I have one or not, and if so, what? I don't think I'm going to go with Danger, as that seems a bit pretentious and would make me look like a poser in my mind.
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